Trauma Queen
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Trauma Queen
The Trauma Within Harnessing Positivity W/ Dasha
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Ever wondered how Dasha, the vivacious former WWE and AEW ring announcer, keeps her spirits high without a drop of coffee? Join us as we uncover her secret—harnessing the energy of the earth to fuel her infectious positivity and unwavering optimism. From our first meeting at AEW where her welcoming nature stood out, to her innovative "skip challenge" that brings joy and physical activity together, Dasha's unique approach to life is nothing short of inspiring.
Dive into her early life, where resilience was born out of overcoming physical challenges like being born severely pigeon-toed and without tear ducts. Raised in a sheltered, religious household, Dasha’s mother’s integrity and dedication left a lasting mark, shaping an optimistic personality that flourished despite adversities. Her story reflects on the importance of family values, gratitude, and a relentless pursuit of a positive outlook amidst life's trials.
In our candid conversation, Dasha opens up about balancing her scientific pursuits with a degree in health sciences and a successful career in professional wrestling. We discuss effective communication, managing the pressures of maintaining a happy image, and the significance of authentic relationships. Touching on vulnerability, resilience, social media presence, and finding life’s purpose, this episode is a celebration of growth, curiosity, and the boundless energy Dasha brings to every room she enters. Prepare to be inspired by her journey of self-discovery and the joy she spreads.
Thank you all for listening. Set a boundary with yourself this week, set a boundary with someone else. If someone else does not respect that boundary. LET THEM LOOSE YOU! Stay hydrated internally and externally. We do not have an ashy family.
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Dasha has traveled the world and country as a former WWE and AEW ring announcer, host timekeeper, wrestler, backstage interviewer and Spanish commentator. She also competed in season two of Dwayne Johnson's Titan Games. She is a science nerd who studied molecular biology and microbiology and earned a bachelor's of science degree from the University of Central Florida in health sciences. Y'all, we got Dasha Lovely fabulous. So I am excited to really let y'all in on this conversation that we're about to have with this lovely human. She is one of the nicest people I've ever met. It's kind of gross and I need y'all to all know all the things about her, and we're gonna be talking about resilience today, which you know we're all struggling, so let's, let's get into it. My first question for you we're in it. My first question for you. I love this question. I love the first question and the last question. So the first question is who are you?
Speaker 2:Who am I? Well, if somebody had to ask me who I am, I would say I'm some would say unfortunate. I would say, fortunately, an optimist. An optimist, yes, I'm kind of the type of person that I've been told. When I walk in a room, the energy changes and I think that's kind of a testament to who I feel like I am on the inside. I try to always find the good in people, not base my opinions on what everyone else is talking about other people. I always try to hold myself to a high level of integrity, professionalism and I just like to strive to be a light in any room or any conversation I intercept myself in. So Dasha is, I would say, a happy-go-lucky, fun, energetic, intelligent human being.
Speaker 1:I will agree and support all of the above. And you know some people can do it and they use like adult candy as support or medication. You just be out here raw dog in life, that's wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everyone always asks me. They're like what energy drink are you on? Nothing, how much coffee do you drink? I don't drink coffee. I don't drink soda. You can kind of see it in my teeth here. Everyone's like do you like whiting your teeth? I'm like no, I don't whiten my teeth, I just don't drink soda or coffee or anything like that. You're so pure y'all.
Speaker 1:I anything like that. I just strive to like feed off of the energy of the earth. First lesson we all need to tap into the energy of the earth because we're all just making it Mine's a little.
Speaker 2:Mine's a little off right now, but, um, the optimist in me believes that this is only temporary and you just have to, like, hold your head up and when you wake up in the morning it's like okay, well, I woke up on the right side of the dirt today. Uh, that means my purpose here on earth has not been served. So how and what will I do to positively influence the world today?
Speaker 1:I feel like people are gonna listen to this and like start floating. They're going to be like you know what? I think I can skip. Remember when we were doing those videos, how to skip? I think I can skip again.
Speaker 2:I haven't tried in a while.
Speaker 1:Oh it's crazy Because your legs.
Speaker 2:Don't do it, you just automatically stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Some people. I need you later to go look on like tiktok and like look at skipping videos. Adults don't know how to skip anymore well for me.
Speaker 2:I feel like I haven't tried since I ruptured my achilles tendon, so it's been not from skipping, it was from gymnastics and flips and stuff. But I mean, I haven't like, I haven't thought to skip. Maybe we can make that our thing.
Speaker 1:Start skipping. Yeah, a thousand skips today.
Speaker 2:Let's do a skip challenge for the month of whatever. Let's just make it the skipping challenge. I don't hate it. I think you're onto something. I mean, if you see that on my social media, you better make it happen and tag me when you start the skip challenge.
Speaker 1:I'm in, okay, I'm going to. Okay, I'm going to skip, I'm going to skip. How did we meet we?
Speaker 2:met at AEW, so we were sitting and catering, if I can remember correctly.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I love it you had really awesome blue hair and I, being the person that I am, was like hi, I haven't met you before, what's your name? And you're like. My name's Jim and Nika, but you can call me Jim, because most people can't say that and I was like well, my name's Dasha, like Sasha with a D, and I'm pretty sure, if I can recall correctly, you were like a lot of people think that I'm a makeup artist, but I'm not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy. They still think. Some people still think that my name is Miranda. It's not.
Speaker 2:They think you're Miranda and you're like, listen here, all black people are not the same, like hello. We are both very lovely, incredible, amazing, different human beings. I love you both dearly.
Speaker 1:So different.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how we met. It was in catering, possibly at a pay-per-view, because that's usually when they bring you in. And then I attached to you and I think I pretty much told you I was going to be your assistant and I was going to introduce you to everyone that I knew because nobody.
Speaker 2:it's one of those things that I don't like. When you're like oh, hey, and you're like hey, and then it's like that awkward, should I know this person? Do I not know this person? I'm like hey, I don't know if you've met her before, but this is Jumanica. She is our trauma specialist and she helps our brains get right at work, and that's I'm pretty sure that's how we met, you know what.
Speaker 1:And we were in San Francisco. It was the first time I was on site. I didn't even actually work at the company then. Oh really, I didn't. No, I was like feeling it out, I didn't. That was in March, it was in March, and then I didn't actually start working for AEW officially until like April or May.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, I thought you were already in. You were in my book.
Speaker 1:Now, what does trauma mean to you?
Speaker 2:Trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma is something that kind of like impacts you for, I would say, the rest of your life, whether it's positive or negative. But I feel like most of the time trauma is associated with negative things and events that occur in your life that are negative, that kind of alter and change a little bit as to who you are. But I wouldn't say necessarily it's permanent. It could be temporary but, depending on the type of trauma and the level of trauma could depend on how long it impacts you and the type of person that you are. I feel like for me, depending like if it's personal and it depends who it's from. If it's somebody whom I'm very close to or somebody who I care dearly about, if they do something to me, then that affects me far more than somebody who I'm not close to or don't really know very well. Or if it's something that you have absolutely no control over, just depending what the situation is, it impacts me a little bit differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think a lot of people know the things you've done as an adult, but I think that we, especially being women of color, we are roots people and I think it's important to know people's origin stories, to know why you're so goddamn resilient and why you see the light and all the things. So who was baby Dasha?
Speaker 2:baby Dasha. Baby Dasha was stubborn from birth. I, you, you literally could ask my mom like I was born like severely pigeon-toed, like a lot of people don't know, because they just they see like me, like in heels, and I can walk, you know, effortlessly, or whatever the case may be Float honey Float.
Speaker 2:Floating yeah, because we're floating. Today they see me floating and I actually was born severely pigeon-toed. It was literally like from birth. I was born messed up. My feet were turned in, my tear ducts were blocked. I literally couldn't even physically cry. I I could make the noise, but like tears couldn't stream down my face. Yeah, so like at 18 months, I had my first surgery and that was to actually like construct tear ducts, so then I could cry, because people be like man, that'd be so great not to cry. Well, what it actually does is it creates a lot of pressure in your face. You get like crazy puffy eyes, like you have to release it, like I am the happiest person, but I also cry a lot too.
Speaker 2:I cry a lot as well because your body physiologically can only like, hold and withstand so much. You gotta release it um a lot of times. And I I even cry while I'm laughing and smiling, sometimes when I'm sad. But yeah, I was born severely pigeon-toed. I was born without tear ducts. I cost my parents a lot of money.
Speaker 1:They're like look at this expensive little person. I was very expensive.
Speaker 2:And I had to sleep with these braces on my feet, that kind of turned them out, and my I had to sleep with these like braces on my feet, that kind of like turned them out, and my dad had to like manipulate my legs and strengthen my legs. But, as weird as that might sound, I actually started walking at six months and like running by eight months and I developed like crazy upper body strength. So when I tell you, resilience is something that I think I was kind of born with, I feel like I was, because I literally have been fighting so many different kinds of physical, mental, emotional battles ever since I was little that most people just see me as like happy-go-lucky person. They're like, oh, she's got no problems, no cares, no, this, no, that. It's like. Oh wait, take a second, you could talk to me. I'm an open book. I would love to share my story with you, but it's been far from easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then, what was like middle school, high school?
Speaker 2:as a Floridian, Middle school and high school as a Floridian Middle school and high school as a Floridian. Well, for me, I was born in a very sheltered household, so I would say I didn't really see any problems going on because my mom shielded us from so much. Like I feel like now as an adult it was a blessing and a curse because I didn't see a lot of the malice that there was in the world and I always thought everyone was just so nice and so perfect and everything was great and it kind of allowed me to continue to develop that happy-go-lucky personality within me. I'm very lighthearted when it comes to a lot of stuff and people know if they're having a bad day they can count on me to crack a joke or ease the tension. But it was so sheltered that even as a as a kid, like we weren't allowed to like spend the night at anyone's house. Like I didn't get to celebrate Halloween because we spent every Halloween in church and it wasn't even allowed to like dress up or anything like that. We didn't listen to a lot of secular music. Every Sunday was go to church.
Speaker 2:My mom was a Sunday school teacher. Every Sunday was go to church. My mom was a Sunday school teacher. But at the same time my mom lived what she preached as weird as that may sound, you know like she was one of those people that, like when my parents got divorced, she was like I made a vow to God and you know I'm only going to be with him and even still to this day she's never dated anyone. She dedicated her life, you know, to us and to church and I see that integrity in her and I kind of mirror that a little bit in my life. But at the same time I was very shocked, growing up like as an adult, to see like oh wow, people really aren't as nice as they seem.
Speaker 2:And some people have hidden agendas and some people are not kind hearted like you think everyone's kind at heart. Feel like now, at my age, I'm still growing up because of some of the things or experiences that I didn't get to experience, that other people did.
Speaker 1:Do you think it made it harder or do you just feel like you're like constantly, like in motion?
Speaker 2:It's hard and I stop and I think about it sometimes because I'm like, would I have wanted another life? Like, yes, we had struggles, you know, financial struggles and things like that. You know, I had somebody almost try to kill my dad when I was like eight years old, you know. So I saw minor little glimpses. But like, when it comes to like nowadays kids are raised on TV and the internet and stuff TikTok, I didn't and TikTok yeah, I didn't have access to that kind of stuff because I am a millennial. So I went to the library and that was the only time I had a computer, you know. But I stopped and think and I actually asked myself this question the other day and I was like, if I could change anything, would I? And honestly I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:Because I feel like, because I was raised and brought up that way and because my mom never my mom or dad never really pushed me to believe a certain way or believe their way, because it was the only way my mom always said listen, life is about choices and you can make your choice. This is what I believe in and you can choose to believe in it, but at the same time I'm not going to get in the way of you experiencing other things or trying other things. I'm always going to give you my feedback and an opinion if it's warranted and you want it. And I also grew up with a mom too. That was like hey, you know how most of your friends' moms say that they're their best friends. Well, I'm not your friend, I am your mom.
Speaker 2:I have to raise you so you can grow up to be a good adult, a positive member to society. Now, once you become an adult and you're self-sufficient and you don't rely on me and you're not under my home, then maybe we can be friends. And I'm very grateful for that, because she wasn't my friend growing up. I was terrified of her and even to this day I'm like, if mom sees this, what is she going to think? She instilled that fear. But I don't think it's a problem and I don't like have any anger or anything like that towards her, because I'm grateful that she was able to stand true to her word, you know, be have conviction in, in what she believes in and stand firm, because I'm kind of this a little bit the same way now myself because of that, what did you want to be when you grew up? Like that's, you know that's of that.
Speaker 1:What did you want to be when you grew up? You know that's always a question what do you want to do when you grow up? You're like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, I always wanted to work in entertainment. I always knew that I love science and I love mathematics.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the science aspect. Does everyone know what kind of nerd you are? Is that like a special thing?
Speaker 2:I don't know if a lot of people know. I don't know if a lot of people know, but yeah, I studied molecular biology and microbiology. I have a degree in health sciences and I truly love science.
Speaker 1:I love human anatomy.
Speaker 2:I don't get grossed out by anything. Sometimes people are like Dasha, dasha, tmi. I'm like what was I not anatomically correct? Was I speaking out of, out of the scientific realm? Well, no, well then, okay, why are you getting offended over here, especially like at work? And sometimes people be like well, why, why, why are you emotional? Or or why is this, or like, not emotional. I'm just always happy, I guess I work. But why is this? And I'm like well, maybe you may think it's TMI, but I'm shedding my uterine lining. And they're like oh, why? I'm like did I speak out of turn? No, that is what it is called. And they're like oh, that's so gross, it's true.
Speaker 1:Okay, I didn't mean to throw you off. I just feel like people should know all these aspects that make you this person. Okay, so you wanted to be an entertainment back.
Speaker 2:I always wanted to be an entertainment, but I always knew I needed to have a plan B, something to fall back on just in case it didn't happen, you know. So I went to college, I studied science, got my degree in it, had a love and passion for health and fitness. But like I still had that yearning to like work in entertainment and to fund my undergraduate education, I competed in pageants, which I was the biggest tomboy growing up. Biggest tomboy growing up Were you, oh yeah, like literally all my friends would be like. You are a tomboy with girlish tendencies. Huh, okay, didn't see that coming. I never was into makeup. I never was into like fashion or anything like that. It was always like hitting the gym, being sweaty cars, like all that kind of stuff. I like outdoor adventures, climbing trees, catching things like that was my childhood. But we were only allowed to go from one neighbor to the other neighbor because El Viejo Lco would take us well, I mean, probably saved you.
Speaker 1:Honestly, outside is wild, outside is fucking wild it is very wild wow, okay, so entertainment. Did you have like a thing you wanted to do? I know some people like I want to do this, or you're just like no, I'm just in it, like I just want to do this. Or you're just like no, I'm just in it, like I just want to be touching everything.
Speaker 2:Well, I wanted to. As crazy as this sounds, I wanted to be a role model. I wanted to be something different because I mean our generation raised by TVs, you know, generation after us raised by TVs. Essentially, you know, I wasn't raised by a TV. I was raised by, you know, a mother that took us out to community events and we volunteered a lot and we were very active in our community and I wanted to kind of try to be something different.
Speaker 2:A lot of people would always tell me well, your personality isn't going to last here and wrestling and I actually was watching Total Divas, as crazy as it may sound, I grew up a casual fan of wrestling. If we ever played hooky from church and stayed home with my dad, we would always wrestle each other on the bed or the couch with my brother and my sister and I was like, hmm, this is pretty cool. These people are physically fit and active, they're models, they're on television. Yeah, this checks all the boxes. Essentially, I would love to do this and I applied online and it was.
Speaker 2:It's wild and crazy to think that I actually got my foot in the door in entertainment, in the pretty much the pinnacle, like the top wrestling promotion at the time it was before AEW even existed. I know there was people that you know wrestled in the indies for decades and all these years working their way up to it. And I went to college, I volunteered, I had my own personal training company, I did pageants. So with my resume they took a chance with me and got in as a wrestler with WWE and started in NXT and then transitioned to hosting and announcing and backstage interviewing and I survived there for five years when everyone would tell me you're too nice to be here, we don't understand it and people thought I had like a hidden agenda and like they thought you were the ops, didn't they?
Speaker 2:they were like, they thought I had a hidden agenda, like I was gonna backstab somebody, I was like nah, I'm the one that gets backstabbed all the time because I believe everyone's kinder than they actually are.
Speaker 1:That is wild. We're working on that. We got to release that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I refuse to change who I am in the industry. And hey, look at me now, I'm unemployed.
Speaker 1:They don't want me. Yes, no.
Speaker 2:They unemployed, they don't want me, yes, no, they don't want me in the industry anymore.
Speaker 1:Back to school. Oh, what, if? What if you were like the hot professor?
Speaker 2:I I also have this weird thing. People tell me that I'm like, I'm beautiful or I'm hot or whatever, and I was the ugly duckling growing up, so it still feels kind of she was falling out of trees and shit and chasing bugs.
Speaker 1:They were confused, they were confused, they were confused. What does resilience mean to you?
Speaker 2:resilience to me is when bad things happen to you and you feel like you're down, no what, you pick yourself up and you keep on going. You keep on going because you have to be resilient. Now, as an adult, obviously, my perception of the world has changed a little bit. I've grown, I've evolved, and the one thing that you do need in this world is to have resiliency, because there's always going to be someone or something that's trying to knock you down, and you have to be able to find the strength within you and the courage within you, the resilience within you, to be able to stand up and be like hey, guess what? This isn't going to knock me down, it's got me knocked down temporarily right now, but it's not going to be able to stand up and be like hey, guess what? This isn't going to knock me down. It's got me knocked down temporarily for right now, but it's not going to be forever.
Speaker 2:And I feel like having been born with resiliency. Any other kid growing up would have just given up hey, this is too hard, it's not going to happen. It's like with school. People see me and they're like well, you had such good grades from kindergarten through high school, you graduated top of your class.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, but a lot of people didn't know that I have an undiagnosed learning disability because we couldn't afford to get it tested. So I have a reading disability that it takes me reading things 10 times more than the average person just to be able to read it and comprehend it. Yet I can still study science because it's something that I love, you know, and it's one of those things that, like things don't naturally come easy to me. I just practice a lot and try a lot and try to figure out, and when one thing doesn't work I'll try a different route or I'll try to make this connection here or talk to this other person over here, and that resiliency is kind of what helps motivate me and keep me on track and keep Just quitting. I was like somebody raise no quitter.
Speaker 1:No, no, for me I have come to a bit of a battle with that word. I think there's this idea when people put the label on us that we're resilient, that it kind of for some people they see us as like pushovers.
Speaker 1:Or like or like. Well, you can get through the thing, you're fine. I'm tired of being resilient. I'm a tired bitch and I, as as you, have navigated many things murder, um, assault, trauma, all the fun things and you know, sometimes I get tired of being resilient. Do you ever find yourself tired of having to be so goddamn resilient? Oh the eyes.
Speaker 2:For those that can't see, the eyes are flat. Oh, I'm exhausted. I have gotten to the point now, kind of in my life where I do feel a little bit exhausted, and it is exhausting and I have this, this battle and I don't know if you do too sometimes where it's like, where everyone's like, well, you're just so kind and you're so nice, you're gonna bounce back I don't have that battle.
Speaker 1:People don't think I'm that nice and you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2:You're gonna be fine and you're like but I don't feel fine and like I'm currently in that, right now, you know wherever everyone's like, well, you're just, you're just, your thing is coming, your thing is going to come. And I'm like, I'm stuck in the why do I have to be so resilient stage. Because it's like I just feel like sometimes things get taken away from you that are out of your control and you're like I understand we're dealt these hardships and we're dealt. You're like I understand we're dealt these hardships and we're dealt these different experiences. But it's like man, I'm tired of always having to prove myself. I'm tired of always having to find the courage, the strength. I'm just tired.
Speaker 2:But it's like when you do say you're so tired, then you get a little kick, a little glimmer of something good's to come. And with resiliency it's like with life Life has ups and downs and if you don't have ups and downs in life, you're flatlined, You're dead. So it's one of those like. I feel like, temporarily, I'm in a low right now, but I know myself and I know I'll be able to pick myself up and I know I will surround myself with people I love and people that truly care for me and I try not to rely on social media to get self-worth.
Speaker 1:No one do that.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's all a lie, especially X.
Speaker 1:Oh, look, such a person. I actually called it that. Especially Twitter, I refuse. I know it hurt. I actually didn't like it. You see how quickly I was like ew, especially on Twitter, um, especially on twitter. Twitter is like a playground of miserable people that I feel like. They see happiness, they see resilience and they're like must ruin it must destroy, will write negative and re.
Speaker 2:Do you still retweet on?
Speaker 1:X. Yes Well maybe it's a share. I don't know what they call it, but you can. I don't know what they call it though.
Speaker 2:No, no, I know, you can physically do the thing I know, but I don't know what you call it, but I don't know what it's called.
Speaker 1:Is it a share? Let me see, I'm going to look. Hold on.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't know, let's see if it even says anything. I mean, everyone retweet sounds, so oh, it's a repost oh, repost okay post, so I know you can quote stuff. But yeah, it's a lot easier for people just to express their thoughts. But it's a good thing that I try to stay away from it, because I like pictures and happy things and reading, like I said, is not my strong point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're like fuck your words. Anyway, show me a photo.
Speaker 2:Forget you. Sorry, didn't read it, didn't see it.
Speaker 1:Doesn't exist. That's so interesting In the work that you have done and growing up a millennial, you know we didn't have all the things, and so how do you navigate social media as someone that is such a positive person? Because, like we just said, the internet isn't, but also it is a part of your work.
Speaker 2:It is. It's a part of my work, but this is the way that I handle it. I can choose what kind of platform I would like. I would like to have a page that exudes confidence, happiness, joy, a distraction from people's reality. I would like it to motivate people. I like funny, you know PG jokes, and that's the kind of stuff that I choose to have on my page.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do get negative stuff all the time and guess what I do? I don't block you, I don't engage in that aspect, I just delete it. And some people will be like I saw you deleted my post and they'll like rewrite it. And I'm like and delete, you know there's no more, Did it again, and then they write it again. They're like I saw you did it and it's like and you are non-existent, and that's it. Like for me. It's just that I don't want to be around that negativity and I don't want to be around that negativity and I don't want to to see and yes, constructive criticism is a thing you know like, I get it. I mess up sometimes too, but I'm also human, you know, as, as we all are, and we have proven that by selecting the stairs, proving we're not robots on social media but um? Or the bicycles, what are they, bicycles?
Speaker 1:you hate unsolicited advice? Oh my gosh, I'll be like I'm gonna stop you right there. See this one. This is why I'm not the nice one like I'm gonna stop you right there. I didn't ask for this, but I I hold it, I don't care, swallow it.
Speaker 2:I wish I could, but I guess that's why we're all different, right, we do need a balance of all these differences.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I'm too nice sometimes.
Speaker 2:So people yeah, what is your balance?
Speaker 1:That's what I'm like. How do you balance having no-transcript?
Speaker 2:Well, I primarily choose not to engage, but if it does get out of control, I am not afraid to put you in your place either. And that is in me. And she is fiery and she is still professional and she doesn't scream and she doesn't raise her voice, she just speaks from person to person, allows you to possibly correct yourself if you have misspoken, because it's happened before. Sometimes you'll be like oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean it that way. I'm like perfect. Well, it didn't come off very nice, so we may want to reword these words.
Speaker 1:I think that's actually better. I think when you are calm and slow down and actually address the thing, it is creepier because people don't expect that right, like we are in a society where people get loud and people get violent and don't actually take the time. And sometimes it's like I'm slowing this down because I also don't want to repeat myself and I wanted to be very clear on what I'm saying, versus like no one hears that I don't like cursing, so that's usually not my go-to.
Speaker 2:But also I feel like the art of communication, like actual communication, is something that is lost and I like to give people the space to communicate. But a lot of people just prefer to just throw it all at you and then run away and not actually confront. And I'm also one of those people that, even if I don't agree with you, I strive to give you the space to communicate how you're feeling and then make my choice and set my boundary as to what works and what doesn't work. You know, I just I would rather you hear something from me than hear it from somebody else. And if I were to mention it to somebody else before a telephone goes into play, just take a second. Just, hey, pull me over to the side. Hey, I heard this. You don't have to disclose your source, but I heard this. Is it what you meant? Oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. No, that wasn't, but I could see how it was misconstrued this way. And it's just a simple conversation that you could have with somebody.
Speaker 2:And I'm also that type of person that, once we've had that conversation and we've addressed it, if there has been changed, action then dropped, it's done, we've moved on. I'm not storing in my Rolodex of bringing it if we ever have a fight or an altercation or anything like that, but if it's been resolved, then we move forward. That's the only way like people aren't going to hold anger and resentment towards each other. You know if you messed up, it's real simple. I'm really sorry, I messed up, but this is what I'm going to do to move forward. You can't just say I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but not have any change to action. If not, it's just an empty apology.
Speaker 1:Isn't that also somewhat insanity, the constant staying in the same thing and not actually evolving?
Speaker 2:It's hard, easier said than done. Don't get me wrong, because for me, you know personally, dealing with some stuff just depending if it's somebody super close to you that's hurt you. It like messes with your head. It messes with you so much. But we all have things that we're going through, and I'm I. Now, as an adult, I'm learning about different types of communication. I'm one of those people that's aggressive in my communication, and I don't mean aggressive with like language or whatever, it's just like okay, hey, this is what happened, let's talk about it. You know, can we talk about it now? Are we too angry? Are we not Like I don't mind talking about stuff? Some people just think what's the point? Why am I even going to mention it? Like, does it matter? My opinion doesn't matter or whatever. So I myself am learning different types of personalities and how people communicate so I can become a better communicator, because not everyone's like me. I will just tell you how it is black and white and that's how it is in my brain.
Speaker 1:Do you think that there comes a point when resilience is no longer a thing, when you want to stop fighting?
Speaker 2:For some people yes, for me. I just feel like it's like ingrained in my DNA. For some people yes, for me. I just feel like it's like ingrained in my DNA. I've tried, I've tried being like, oh surrender, I don't want to do this anymore. And then I catch myself waking up again figuring out, okay, well, girl, you got it. I catch myself like hyping myself up, trying to like get back on track. I mean, I'm kind of going through that right now because, trust me, there's some days that I'm like I don't want to do anything, everything is terrible. I even called you, you know, as a friend of like I'm done, I'm this, I'm that, and then I'm like dang it. I don't want to break this habit of resiliency. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think there's like because it's so ingrained in you, it's like you don't know other things and that's why I'm like is it helpful or is it harmful? Do you think there's the resilience that we push ourselves too far trying to understand other people? Sometimes I'm like I actually don't, I don't understand this and I don't actually feel like I need to Like it's not for me. Like you said, it's just I don't need to push through to always communicate with everyone else, because I think you know, in communication, as we know, there's two sides of it the sender of information, the receiver. And if you're sending me information but don't give a fuck about the way that I receive it, then we're not communicating. You're talking at me versus talking to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I definitely do see that a lot. But I feel like the scientist in me is somebody who likes to resolve things, who likes to resolve things. So for me I don't feel at ease unless I, in my brain, come up with a conclusion as to why. But I feel like once my brain is okay with the conclusion, then I can let it go. What if you never find it? Then I'm dead, oh, deceased. We'll miss you, deceased. No, I don't know. Honestly, there are a lot of things that perplex me in that. But it's kind of like in my brain it's not that I failed or I never figured it out. It's kind of like this isn't the time for me to conclude it. It's all like an open experiment, I guess.
Speaker 1:I had a conversation with someone we know, the lovely RJ, and RJ was like I don't believe in happiness, I don't believe that people can just be happy all the time, like it's not a real thing. As someone that presents as a very happy person, in reality, no one is happy all the fucking time. And so how do you navigate presentation versus reality when, again, this is how people see you and they're like what you're, sad, what you have feelings Like there's other emotions that you have. Do people get thrown off?
Speaker 2:I feel like, because everyone sees me so happy all the time and because I strive to be such a kind person, that if you truly care about me, it hurts them when I'm sad, which in turn makes me feel bad. So then my cycle is all right. We'll get happy again, girl, so you don't have to be causing pain to other people.
Speaker 2:Interesting people Interesting. So I feel like a lot of it is. You know, like some people go on social media and they just like tap to like fake like somebody's happiness. You know, for me, like honestly, like because sometimes so many things are out of your control or your life may be flipped upside down or whatever Like it brings me joy, so much joy when good things happen to people. Because this world is so hard and life is so hard, it honestly like in my very core, like it doesn't matter what's going on in my life.
Speaker 2:Seeing somebody who's been trying to have a baby for such a long time, who's such a good person you know, finally get pregnant or adopt a child or go on the journey by themselves like that brings me joy. You know, somebody who's struggled with love finally find somebody that's their match like that brings me so much joy. Somebody that I know has struggled and woken up every single morning and put in all this hard work and effort just to make their dreams come true, that brings me so much joy. You know, it's like even something I was like what brought me a level of calmness when I lost my job. It literally was ripped from me, you know, gut punched. But knowing that the person that you know is announcing, you know, now in my position, like Bobby, is somebody who I've known, like it brings me joy because, like this has been his dream for 20 something years and he's a good human being, you know. And when he was told, you know you don't have the look or you don't have this or you don't have that Like here, even though it may feel like it was taken away from me, it brings me joy knowing that he's finally accomplishing his dream. So that brings me comfort.
Speaker 2:It makes me happy yeah, it makes me emotional because I don't got a job, but at the same time, I know how much it means for him and he's not the type of person that would squander an opportunity like that. You know, like I like seeing that a lot. I like seeing people that, no matter what happens to them, they just push forward and they inspire other people, because even me that, you know, feels very sad, you know, and, and I don't know, in a certain way, you know it brings it that brings me joy. So it's like I think my default is happy. You know it brings it that brings me joy. So it's like I think my default is happy. You know it is happy because that's what keeps me alive and that's what keeps me going.
Speaker 1:You know, sadness, that darkness and sadness, I like light, I like bright things yeah, but I think you also have to understand darkness to be in the light. I was having this conversation last night. It's like you have to know all the parts and like exist in all the parts. And she was like because they're all within us. And I'm like, yeah, Like some people are, like I can never be mean or do a bad thing and I'm like, yes, you can when push comes to shove. It's like the ways that we show up and the things that we need. Do you find that your resiliency is more for yourself or for other people?
Speaker 2:I think it's for me, it's to keep me from self-sabotaging or, you know, going into a dark place, you know, because that I don't like, that. I don't like being in that place, you know. But it's in my life personally, when I do get into like that, spiraling down into that dark place, it's kind of crazy how the universe sends you somebody that kind of helps, you know, shine just a little bit of a light and you're like, okay, all right, that was a close one kind of a thing. You know, and I've always tried to build authentic relationships with people, Nothing superficial, like if I call you my friend, like you legitimately are my friend, like I will stop what I'm doing to go help you if you need help, you know, kind of a thing. Now, if you're doing something wrong that you shouldn't be doing and it's harming other people, I'm going to call you out on it.
Speaker 1:But I think that's friendship too. You got to hold people accountable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hold people accountable. And I don't know, I really don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1:But I think that's also the thing in like giving yourself permission of no, that it's not perfect, and that we're all still trying to figure it out. Like none of us were given a blueprint. Sure, we were started out. I always say that our teachers are our parents. Our first teachers are our parents and our families, and then we learn the things. And then we get older and it's like they taught me these things, but do they fit the person that I am today? And then we throw some shit out, we get some new things and it's like a constant work. Like no matter how old we are, we're still learning. I'm also tired of fucking learning, but it is an ongoing thing, thing that's hard.
Speaker 1:Let's just being an adult is having to have some type of resilience, because work, play, family, it's all a lot. It's all a lot and there's, like you said, you know, there's this, the different seasons. I'm not, I'm not one that's like up and down, but I'm like what is balance? What does this season look like? Where is the next one like? Right now it's a little bit rainy. It's warm and rainy. It's cloudy in my season thunderstorms maybe there are parts of literally you were in a goddamn storm. You were literally in a storm.
Speaker 2:I got caught in a storm the other day.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:It literally was completely bright out and I was like you know what? I'm going to go for a walk in nature with my pup. It's going to be amazing. Then the sky fell and then there were tornadoes that touched down in the area. And here I am in the wilderness and I don't have enough time to run home and I found the community park and I went to the safest location there and tried to wait it out, but it was wild it was like night to day I was like well at least I have this building to keep us safe.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's also somewhat representation of where you are Like so quick, out of the blue and like you had the tools to go. Okay, maybe let's just sit the fuck down for a minute. I'm just going to, like, sit over here, hold it, hold my baby.
Speaker 1:We're going to breathe and it's kind of like where you are, like you. You know we've weaved it in and out, like work things, life things, balancing, existing as a human. Something that I think is super important to me and it sounds like it's also important to you is like community. I don't think that we are meant to be on this planet as like single individuals and it, you know, it might mean partners, it might mean family, it might mean chosen family. What does community look like for you? Do you think that it's important for you?
Speaker 2:I think it's very much important to me because I wouldn't be the woman that I am today if it wasn't for the community and the people that I surround myself with. Growing up, like I had mentioned, I struggled a lot with reading. Comprehension was something that was very hard for me, and it all started with Miss Bell, my kindergarten teacher, and then my third grade teacher, miss Callum. May she rest in peace. But my mom wanted to retain me because she's like hooked on. Phonics didn't work for her. You know, her comprehension isn't there and Ms Callum was like she just has a different style of learning and the way that she comprehends things. You know she has severe test anxiety and although I had straight A's, she recognized that and tested me in the way that I needed to be tested, you know. And I had another professor in college same thing too. He's like I know, you know this information, but it's like test comes around and you like, freak out, and that would happen to me sometimes, like on camera, like scientists by trade. You know, when I was with WWE it was like test red light, you know, and then something would happen and I would freak, I would eventually snap out of it. But it's like people only like to look at, like the negative stuff you know. And it's like you're molded by community and the people that raise you. And for me, I'm lucky enough to have found so many mentors and so many different kinds of people that could tell that I was a different kind of individual and I didn't tick the same way that everyone else did and they would, you know, treat me not special, but just the way I needed to be treated. One of my mentors she's 91 right now and she would always tell me I'm like how are you this cool, miss June? And she's just like you know what? Because nobody is self-made as much as people think they are self-made.
Speaker 2:Yes, like it takes a community to raise somebody and it takes somebody being like hey, I can see you're struggling, here's my hand, let me help you out. And it doesn't have to necessarily be financially, it could be emotionally, it could be intellectually, you know, teaching you different skills. She's like what about? You know that third grade teacher? Or you know that fifth grade teacher that helped you out, you know that motivated you in a way that nobody else did or gave you the confidence that you didn't think you had. When people are like we don't understand why you're so nice or why you continue to help people out, that you know, take your position or do this and that, and I'm like, well, the way that I was raised and the type of human that I want to be and the type of human that I want to be remembered by, my legacy per se is paying it forward. Yeah, I wouldn't be who I am if it wasn't for somebody that's like hey, I can see you don't financially come from a strong background, I'm going to secretly sponsor you for this, you know, or I'm going to teach you these tools that are going to help you succeed.
Speaker 2:So it's like when people think of pageants, they're like ah, that's just a beauty pageant, you know, that's nothing, that's just women being judged, being judged. Well, they were very formative years for me that actually helped me become the woman that I am today, because I surrounded myself by people whom I admired, women whom I admired and I learned and I studied. How did they become successful. I learned how to articulate my thoughts. I learned how to present myself. I learned how to carry myself and be the woman that I want society to view me as and be. I learned so many different tools for so many different toolboxes. I learned how to fail because do you think that I won every single pageant that I competed in?
Speaker 2:I didn't compete in pageants from when I was a kid. I competed from 18 years old up until 24 years old. I was a grown adult, you know, and I learned how to be even more resilient. I learned failure, I learned opportunity. I learned how to stand up for myself, I learned how to be able to present myself, and I love that aspect of it.
Speaker 2:Now are there other aspects that are political aspects and this and that, and blah, blah, blah, but I always choose to find the good in every experience that I have. Yes, there's so much bad, but it's like what was my takeaway? What did I learn? How did I grow as a human from this experience? Way? What did I learn? How did I grow as a human from this experience?
Speaker 2:And that's what helps, I would say, maintain my resilience and be able to bounce back, because it's like, okay, well, if I didn't go to college, I wouldn't have met this person, this person to then, you know, have the strength and the courage to even apply to WWE online Somebody who didn't know really too much, had no connections or anything. You know, to then be able to apply to a show called Titan Games. You know, to be able to apply, or work, you know, for WWE for five years, to then be able to make connections and not be afraid. You know, once I failed in one company, essentially to be able to get picked up by AEW, to then get dropped by AEW. To now try to figure out what's my next thing. You know, it's some doors closed for greater ones to open, but it's like you gotta keep knocking because they're not gonna come to you. So I'm in the knocking process to see what door opens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, something that I also hear and navigating through all of it is vulnerability Vulnerability with others, vulnerability with yourself. Failure is something that we all come through. Go through, walk around, look at it, go not for me, but she's at your door. It's like a whole thing and I think that some people don't see the connection there. What do you think the connection is within vulnerability and resilience?
Speaker 2:I feel when people can see your authenticity and even if you have failed you know they it kind of helps give them hope, I guess you could say, because if you don't fail and you just hit after hit, after hit, after hit, when finally something doesn't hit, it could be more detrimental to some people.
Speaker 2:I'm used to failing, so I just laugh at it now, but not laugh at it as in like ha ha. It's like okay, well, this is a test, this is a roadblock, this is a hump I'm going to have to get over. How are we going to equip ourselves? How are we going to find a way to overcome this? And I used to think and this is something that you helped me with, Jim Jimenica I used to just try to figure everything out myself and just tell everyone I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 2:Now I've learned I'm not fine and I've learned to ask people for help and people that I care about, like, what is your opinion on this? And I try to kind of remove myself from the situation and look at it from a different perspective, rather than, oh, poor me, poor me, poor me, okay, well, this is the situation. Let's look at it at face value. Okay, these are my feelings on it Doesn't mean that these are going to be my feelings forever. You know, how can I grow, how can I learn from this? Do I just have to let something go? Do I have to move on? But at the end of the day, the choice is mine. So what is the choice that I'm going to choose to make?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. I think that's such an interesting thing that we all have to do. And looking outside of ourselves, I try. In the last few years I have had lots of death and sadness.
Speaker 1:I always saw people like, listen, I'm sad, but I'm not ugly, so you might not see it, and you know being able to step outside and have people you trust go. I have your best interests, and so thank you for trusting me. Let me give you what I see, because when we're in the shit of whatever it is, we don't always see the thing and or we don't always want to see the thing right. And so having those trusted people, having our community, that are like I know you're pushing through, I know you're doing all the things, but also I can see how fucking tired you are. I can see that you need a nap. I can see that you need a hug.
Speaker 1:That's the vulnerability parts for me, because it's like how did you see through this? I was doing so good masking up and we've had the conversation like wearing a mask. For me, resiliency sometimes is going back to presentation versus reality. Sometimes my resilience is fake. It might look like, oh my God, she's thriving, she does this and all this, but really it's in that moment that you get to see me, cause you don't see me on the couch rolled up, you know, eating snacks trying to stay healthy.
Speaker 1:Cesar, cesar, in case you're listening, we're staying healthy, like watching reality TV in a different language. Because love is blind. Brazil is amazing. Pay me for all these plugs. Pay me for all these plugs, play me for all these bugs. Um and like, do you ever feel like you want to just take the mascot?
Speaker 2:all the time, all the time. But then it's one of those things that it's just like a lot of people are counting on me. You like a lot of people are counting on me. You know a lot of people are counting on me to know that it's going to be okay. And I am vulnerable and cry in front of a lot of people that I'm close to and, although they think it's not helping, a lot of them are like listen, I don't know what I can say and I'm like you. Just even listening is kind enough. I got it off my chest, I got it out of just replaying in my mind over and over and over and over again. And I do, and I want to kind of take the mask off a little bit more. I think it might be shocking to a lot of people. Um, who knows? I don't know it.
Speaker 1:Baby steps, right yeah, yeah, I think like for me it's well, I kind of just jumped into shit. I'm a different kind of Gemini um, but I like, even with my rape right like I was raped at 21, it's all over the internet. Um, I was raped at 21 but I didn't talk to anyone about it until I was almost 28 because I had an article coming out that was being published and I was like maybe I should tell people before it comes out. My friends were like what? And that felt like a vulnerable thing. But it's also like parts of the vulnerability.
Speaker 1:Like you said, you feel like you have to hold that mask for other people. It's like there's this thing called the perfect survivor. Like people are like, well, you're like the perfect survivor, you're calm and you're navigating and look at you go, when in reality, that doesn't exist. It's just where I'm at today. And when I talk about trauma, people are like, well, how do you get through it? And I'm like, oh, that's not real. It's like, how do you navigate it? How do you push through? The same thing that would have triggered me and throw me off. It doesn't anymore. Now I'm just like I see that coming, I can smell it and it kind of feels the same way Like when we're talking about resiliency and wearing our masks. People just think you're this perfect person, but in reality does that feel extra weighted?
Speaker 2:does that feel extra weighted? It does. It does because it it makes it feel sometimes that like, are people going to be disappointed in me because I'm sad, you know, kind of a thing. But the one thing like, even during all this process I've I've tried because a lot of people like will text me and they're like how's it going, how are you doing? And I noticed I catch myself and I'll be like I'm not well, but, um, but it's kind of like my family friendly reminder, because I don't like being in such a negative space.
Speaker 2:I prefer lighthearted, you know, light things. It's kind of like my check, where it's like, okay, I've checked myself in, you know, validating these feelings, but at the same time it's like, okay, well, how am I going to get myself out of it? And I don't know if that's the right way or the wrong way or whatever the case may be. Um, but it's working for me right now. I was like no, I'm not well. Actually People are like how are you? I'm like, well, honestly, I'm not well. I don't have a job. My personal life is what feels like it's falling and crumbling. But what can I do to control the controllables and how can I put in the effort to make change. What can I do? Because, at the end of the day, the only person I can control is myself, you know, and I allow myself and give myself grace to let it all out, but at the same time I try not to live in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, being resilient is cute and shit, but also it's a part of the human experience and it's just like a part of all the other parts, if you know. Two last questions. If someone was like listening and they're like, oh my God, Dasha does all the things and blah, blah, blah. What do you want them to know? What do you want them to take away from? You know, talking about resilience and also like the reality of like yes, and being resilient is a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2:It's very hard, but at the same time it's I. I'm a firm believer that we all have a purpose on this earth and when we have served our purpose, then we depart. And if I am fortunate enough to wake up on the right side of the dirt, I'm going to do my best to continue to try to find out what that purpose is. You know, and whether you call that resiliency or stubbornness some may call it stubbornness I refuse to add more negativity into the world. That's because I'm stubborn. I refuse to add to it. So I am going to continue to try to be an honest person and work on being more vulnerable, because I just always make it seem like everything's okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's hard. I don't know what the right answer is. I don't think anyone knows what the right answer is. It's just what's right for you and what allows you to go to sleep at night, you know, with a clear conscience and a level head. And that's just what I tried to do. I try to do everything with logic and when that fails, then I use my heart. But that's the scientist in me and I feel like that's just the weird way that my brain is wired, you know, and is it weird? I don't know, we're all weird.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I don't know anyone that's like perfect and then perfect. People freak me out, maybe RJ. Well, rj and I did have this conversation. I'm like you know what? There is no one that is just nice all the time. There is no one that is just nice all the time. There is no one that is just resilient all the time because life is lifing at all ways.
Speaker 2:You might be like yeah, but no one's perfect either, because what's perfect for one person is not perfect for the other people. Absolutely, you know which came first, the chicken or the egg. You know like what's perfect. Perfect is what is socially acceptable for a group of people. You know it's depending where you're at. It's like with pageantry or it's with any sort of competition Any day a different set of judges, a different opinion of people. Same thing could be true for a court of law with a jury of your peers. You know it's what is it. I think that's what we're all trying to figure out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is? It feels like this isn't the last question, but it feels like that there's like this goalpost, that's like moving all the time, and so it's like, oh, I found me, okay, what. Sometimes I just stop and go. You do you goalpost? I'm going to take a nap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need to take a nap too. That's what I've learned. But sometimes I can't shut my brain off. I'm like how do I take a nap?
Speaker 1:Here's the thing I love a nap in idea. Okay, I can't actually take naps, got it, I've never been a nap Like time constraints or like no, not even as like a child Like I used to get in trouble like daycare and stuff, like they used to be like just let her go play with the older kids. I could not. I'm just not a napper. I wonder if it's like no, it's not FOMO, because I don't actually care about doing things with other people like that.
Speaker 2:Or do you subconsciously care about it?
Speaker 1:No, I think in my twenties I did not, and I'm closer to 40 than anything. And no, my fucks have continued to fly away. But I think it's the brain. I think I also have a brain that's always like, functioning and you know, like yourself, thinking about other people and navigating, and then, like cool, other people are settled. Now, what about my mess? How do I get back to cleaning that up? And so I think there's the functioning brain, which is a gift and a curse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I fall victim to that. A lot is. You know, I'm a fixer, so it's like trying to fix other people's things. Sometimes I just shove my stuff to the side, to the side, to the side, and then it's like the universe and the world are like guess what? You can't figure this out right now. Guess what time it is, it's your time.
Speaker 1:Guess what time it is.
Speaker 2:It's you, let's focus on you. It's your time guess what time it is? It's you, let's focus on your time to figure your things out. And it's wild how, for me personally, it happens every five years really, yeah, are you in a cycle, is it something? Like stars, are the universe or something? No, are you every five years.
Speaker 1:It's like you stop thinking about it. Pardon, are you into like astrology and stuff to like figure out what's happening for you in the five years I tried?
Speaker 2:going and looking and then it was like this descending mood and that descending you gotta have some again. Community whatever and whatever I got confused and my brain was already hurting, so I was just like I wow, I'm an aries, but I don't know anything else about it yeah, no, you gotta have a person like.
Speaker 1:I had a friend who like map your whatever, my whole chart? Yeah, like my whole thing. And I was like, how did you? Because she studies the. So I was. This is where I'm like community as someone that wants to know the things but doesn't want to learn how to do all the things, cause I learned enough. Can someone tell me and my friend's like oh my God, I've been studying this Great. Can you come over? Thanks. So much.
Speaker 2:I've gotten the chart like handed to me and I'm like how do?
Speaker 1:you read this. No, you got to get someone that'll read it to you. Kind of navigate that, but I think it is interesting. And last thing is like the resilience of it. Resilience also comes with awareness. If you're lucky and it sounds like your awareness is currently in heightened, which for me, also in heightened awareness means you are in an active growth stage.
Speaker 2:I'm trying which growth is hard.
Speaker 2:I'm learning as an adult that you have to grow and change and evolve, and I'm learning that I don't have all of the answers to everything, that I don't have all of the answers to everything, and I'm open to growing as a human to better society as a whole, as a whole, if that's even a possibility.
Speaker 2:You know, like we, we go back to community and it's like we have so many different. We have billions and billions of people in this world and everyone is completely different, know, so it's like how can I better be of service as a human to all of these different types of personalities and people and get back to everyone, not being mean to each other, hating each other, being jealous of each other, and just honestly, it's crazy because, like RJ and I, we didn't really get each other, like because the opposite, complete and fuller opposite. So, yeah, um, it's fascinating to me. I just like learning, especially when people are so different and opposite, like what makes them tick, what ticks them off, off, like why Me? I'm a why person. So I try, I'm in the adventuring, experimenting, learning, why stage Will?
Speaker 2:I ever get all the answers? Probably not.
Speaker 1:No, because that goalpost keeps moving and there's more questions. Yep, so we talked about the hard things and I always like to end the show with a fun thing. Really, because I'm nosy, I want to know what's happening. What is the wildest thing that someone has texted, emailed I just add emailed, emailed or DMed you in the last two weeks and wildest relative?
Speaker 2:I mean, I am a female, so I do get unsolicited photos and emails get weans.
Speaker 1:Are they sending weans?
Speaker 2:uh everything what's everything.
Speaker 1:What are you getting, buttholes?
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:I haven't gotten that yet, thankfully oh, I was like well, what's button?
Speaker 2:I mean like the messages themselves. Some are detailed, some are not, Some requesting certain photos. Well, people think, like when you've lost it all or you know, are vulnerable about certain stuff, that they can try to take advantage of that. And it's like no dude, sorry, Like not happening.
Speaker 1:We don't see you on TV.
Speaker 2:There isn't. There isn't desperation in that you know like thankfully, um, but yeah, I mean nothing too crazy, weird. I mean that's the usual stuff that I get.
Speaker 1:But also I think your usual is weird for a lot of people no one is sending me wings yeah I don't get in there, I have requesting things, you know.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I've been getting requests, you know, because I don't know if they just think what's the weirdest thing that's been requested of you? Um armpit photos okay all right, listen, everyone's into their own things. I've gotten like soles bottom of your feet, that kind of stuff, but I didn't know underarms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, armpits are big for people. Some people like to smell them, people like to lick them. I don't necessarily know about a photo. You know what else is a big area Behind the knee.
Speaker 2:I have not noticed that not knee crevice, hmm yeah I have no bodies tonight yeah, it's coming. Now someone's gonna be like I should ask to see the back of her knee well, I'm not one to post that kind of stuff, so you're gonna have to zoom in, like the rest of them see and please, if you do, don't play in her dms with.
Speaker 1:It needs to be at least five figures.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much if you're gonna waste your time danger zone and I rarely go check that out because it is a scary place yeah, yeah, I was in my.
Speaker 1:I was like we can make you money off there, but it's fine, we're not doing that, we are moving positively. Dasha does not want any requests unless it's for a job, a real job, a solid job, not for whatever you're coming up with. Talking about armpits, I appreciate the interest.
Speaker 2:Don't appreciate the interest.
Speaker 1:Don't say that because they're gonna be like well, she appreciates these requests. No, she doesn't look at us setting a boundary don't smile and laugh, you know gosh, I'm trying to help you not get weans in your dms. You're like it could be fun.
Speaker 2:No, it's not. Yeah, I I mean, yeah, you, you do get some uncomfortable stuff. You know that you're just like this is not okay and and no world is it okay and stalking people and sending you know things to their houses and stuff like that. It usually is not the right thing to do. Um, I'm just a regular kid, so that's a little very strange and shocking, but I mean it's nothing too crazy. Yeah, we probably shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1:But Dasha is nice, I'll be less nice. Stop sending shit to people's homes. Stop being disgusting in DMs. It's not flattering, it's scary sometimes and no one fucking wants that with your creepy ass. See, I could be like your translator. You're like, it's okay, I'm like. Actually, what she meant to say was fuck around and find out have a great day I mean, you don't want to find out?
Speaker 1:see, see, there it is. See the translation it works. It comes through. Then, um, before you go, where can he, the she, they, them z z everyone? Where can they find you and keep up with all the things that you, you're doing and what's coming? How can they get in my business?
Speaker 2:you can follow me on Instagram, on X, under the handle Dasha Correct. I have a YouTube page. I'm working on some stuff. Mas Dasha is that I'm too old for TikTok, but I'm trying to figure it out. That's Mas Dasha as well.
Speaker 1:You're not too old for TikTok, it's for all ages. Technology. Well, I've seen some elders on there. You know what you have to do. You need to get a Gen X person. Got it. You got to go back and find some youth.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's what I do.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, what does this mean? I know these new vernaculars in this language. Listen, my partner thinks it's funny to use riz. He's like are you feeling? I'm like shut up, you're 40.
Speaker 2:I just learned that it came from charisma. I'm learning here, but I have no riz.
Speaker 1:You're a Riz-er. Is that a thing? Did I make that a?
Speaker 2:thing, my something toilet.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:My nephew was telling me about. It starts with an S. I don't even remember what it was called. I checked out because I couldn't handle it. Skibbity toilet or something like that. It came from some YouTube video Skibbity, skibbity, that's what it was. Skibbity skibbity, that's what it was. Skibbity Toilet what does that mean? Just Google it.
Speaker 1:Alright, y'all, we're going to leave you with some things to Google Skibbity Toilet. Leave a comment. You can leave comments here. Until next time, y'all.
